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Thursday, May 20, 2010

*****America's
Broken Media And The Collapse Of World Trade Center 7*****
by
Eric
deCarbonnel

When reading the articles below, keep one question
in mind: Do you find these allegations credible and serious enough
to deserve media coverage?

This
question is crucial because the mainstream media has been ignoring (and in
some cases actively trying to discredit) the facts and arguments below for
years now.

It is the job of a properly functioning
media to investigate credible allegations about issues important
to the people and determine their validity. America’s media
appears to have failed so completely here that it should be considered
completely broken, if not dead.

Architects & Engineers for 9/11
Truth

The Examiner reports that over
1000 architects and engineers have signed petition to reinvestigate 9-11
destruction.

Over 1000 architects and
engineers have signed petition to reinvestigate 9-11
destruction
February 23, 6:02
PMConspiracy ExaminerShawn Hamilton

"At some
level of government, at some point in time, there was an agreement
not to tell the people the truth about what
happened." John Farmer,
Senior Counsel to the 9-11 Commission in his book The Ground
Truth.

Architects and
Engineers for 9-11 Truth founder, Richard Gage, AIA, began the conference
quoting Mark Twain who said, "If you don't read the newspapers you're
uninformed. If you do read them you're
misinformed." Gage said
he hoped the assembled press would help to rectify that
situation. "Today I'm quite
pleased to announce that now we have more than one thousand
architects and engineers signed on to the A&E911Truth petition
demanding of Congress a new and truly independent, unimpeachable
investigation into the destruction of the three World Trade Center
skyscrapers on 9-11," Gage said
to a cheering audience.

Numerous architects and
engineers spontaneously
spoke during the event about what had led to their decision to get
involved in a movement that could potentially jeopardize their
careers. Most agreed that it
was the suspicious
collapse of World Trade Center 7 that first caught their attention.
No airplane hit the
building and the fires
were small. Gage said the
fires were unlikely to have disabled the supporting columns all at once in
order to quickly and neatly drop the skyscraper.

There was also evidence of foreknowledge of
World Trade Centers destruction. The BBC reported live that it had fallen
twenty minutes before it actually fell; viewers could
see the building standing in the background.

Physics
professor, Dr. Stephen Jones, along with an international team of
scientists, analyzed World Trade Center dust from several sources and
claims they found unmistakable traces of nanothermitic composite
material--explosives
that could be used to demolish the three skyscrapers. He and other architects and engineers say
this explains the pools
of molten metal found at ground zero weeks after the
incident. Jones
co-authored a peer-reviewed paper on the subject which led to his
being fired from a tenured faculty position at Brigham Young
University.
…
I asked Griffin why media outlets--even alternative ones--are typically so reluctant to even look at the 9-11
evidence.

"They
say, 'We lose our credibility over here, then we can't do all this other
good work,' overlooking the fact...I would say, as a rabid (laughs) member
of the 9-11 Truth Movement, 'Look this outstrips anything else you could
be exposing from the last ten years--or the next ten--unless there's
another one, and if there is another one it will be partly your fault
because you didn't expose this one."
…

Watching The Watchers reports Jesse
Ventura's Censored 9/11 Commentary.

Jesse Ventura's Censored
9/11 Commentary
By Jesse
Ventura
Sunday, March 14, 2010
at 01:08 PM

Editor's
Note: The following column by former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura
was removed by Huffington Post
after it was published March 9 and
replaced with a note that states the site "prohibits the promotion and
promulgation of conspiracy theories -- including those about
9/11."

You
didn't see anything about it in the mainstream media, but at a recent conference in San Francisco,
more than 1,000 architects and
engineers signed a petition
demanding that Congress begin a new investigation into the destruction of
the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9-11.

That's right, these people put their reputations
in potential jeopardy -- because they don't buy the government's version
of events. They want to know how
200,000 tons of steel disintegrated and fell to the ground in 11
seconds. They question whether
the hijacked planes were responsible or whether it could have been
a controlled demolition from
inside that brought down the twin towers
and WTC Building 7.

…
I
don't claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the
Navy's underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things
to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a
prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a "gravity driven collapse" without demolition
charges defies the laws of physics.

These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of
free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately 10
seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall
towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there's the fact
that steel beams that weighed as
much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500
feet.

… molten metal found underground weeks later is proof
that jet fuel couldn't have been all that was
responsible. I visited the
site about three weeks after 9-11, with Gov. Pataki and my wife Terry. It
didn't mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging
that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures.
These fires kept burning
for more than three months,
the longest-burning structure blaze ever.

And this was all due to jet
fuel? We're talking
molten metal more than 2,000
degrees Fahrenheit.
…

…
Gage
is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural
engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out
the detailed anomalies and many implications of
controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: "Once you get to the science, it's
indisputable."

The Un-Debunkable Molten
Metal

The photo shows a core column
that has been cut with Thermite. (source: opednews)

Facts about the collapse of World Trade Center
7

9/11 Hard Facts reports about WTC Building
7.

WTC Building
7

While these intelligence failures suggest at least
the reasonable possibility of U.S. government complicity in 9/11,
there is a mountain of
physical evidence that directly implicates high-level government knowledge
and participation in the planning and execution of September
11. Perhaps the most damning evidence lies in the
bizarre collapse of WTC Building 7. Anyone
familiar with the story of 9/11 knows about the collapse of the WTC North
and South Twin-Towers. But a third high rise also fell that
day. At 5:20 p.m., the
massive 47-story steel frame Building 7, untouched by the hijacked
airplanes, imploded in the exact manner of a professionally
engineered demolition - at near free-fall speed, straight down, and with
scientific precision into a compact pile of rubble, barely damaging any of
the surrounding buildings.
…
The official explanation for the collapse is
fire - as in fire weakened the
building's structural support steel to the point where it could no longer
hold its own weight upright.
…
…
Flames were visible on 3-4 floors of the building,
having been apparently ignited by falling debris and ruptured diesel tanks
at the base of the structure. And while relatively minor in severity,
these fires were apparently responsible for the building's demise. But
fire as the cause for collapse
poses a number of significant problems - problems that break
fundamental laws of nature. Firstly, fire from diesel fuel and building debris does not
remotely approach the necessary temperature required to weaken and melt
steel. Steel is melted and
forged in sophisticated blast furnaces at incredibly high temperatures.
Secondly, even if fire did cause the necessary weakening of the buildings
steel support beams, each of
those more than 50 beams would have had to weaken and fail at the
exact same time to account for the symmetrical downward
trajectory of the collapse.
…

…
no other steel frame
building has ever suffered a total collapse anywhere on the planet before
or after 9/11 due to fire (remember, Building 7 was NOT hit by an
aircraft).
…
…
Another,
and perhaps stronger, piece of evidence for controlled demolition of
Building 7 is the speed at which the structure
fell. It was a 576-foot
tall building, and a conservative estimate of available video evidence
shows that it fell in 6.5
seconds. A marble, with nothing but wind resistance in its
path, would fall to the ground from the same height in roughly 6
seconds. Somehow, the
top of this building fell to the ground in a perfectly symmetrical
downward trajectory, with 47 floors of steel, concrete, and thousands of
tons of upright standing debris in its path providing huge amounts
of vertical resistance, at virtually free-fall speed. Allegedly because of
random fires on a few floors.
This is a physical and
mathematical impossibility, violating laws in the conservation of
momentum…

... Only
controlled demolition …
resolves the observed rate of
collapse. Because in a
controlled demolition, waves of progressive explosions from the top down
would remove sections of resistant columns and supports, providing the
vacuum-like pocket needed to account for the 6.5-second collapse.
No other
hypothesis,
including the premise narrated in the 'official story', accounts
for this speed.
…

9-11 Research reports that the new
phenomenon of steel buildings crushing themselves.

Collapsing
Buildings
THE NEW PHENOMENON
OF STEEL BUILDINGS CRUSHING THEMSELVES

[I circled in red the three buildings that
collapsed on 9/11 (WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7). Notice that Building 7 (which
wasn’t hit by a plane) was separated from the North Tower (WTC 1) by
Building 6 and Vesey Street. Building 6 did not collapse on
9/11.]

The seven World Trade Center buildings were in
the two blue regions of the map to the right. On September 11th, ...
110-story WTC 1 and 2, and 47-story WTC
7 were leveled, …

… The "collapse" of Building 7 was remarkably
tidy. Although it was wedged between the Verizon building
and the U.S. Post Office building, it barely damaged either of
them.
…

The laws of physics appear to contradict the official
story behind 9/11/2001. In a free press, this would be something
worth investigating!

Media’s silence on the
thermite issue

Christopher Bollyn’s Open Letter to The New York
Times.

An Open Letter to The New
York Times
from Christopher Bollyn
April 21,
2009

Dear Mr. Hoyt and Editors of The New York
Times and International Herald
Tribune:

How can the
New York Times completely ignore the scientific evidence of
nano-thermite, or super-thermite, found in the dust of the demolished and
pulverized rubble of the World Trade Center? Do you consider this crucial
scientific discovery irrelevant to the understanding of what happened
on 9-11?

…
The
silence of the New York Times about the evidence of super-thermite
in the destruction of the twin towers is a perfect illustration of why
newspapers are going out of business in the United States:
a controlled press is
simply not relevant.
…
…
Clearly,
the New York Times is
unwilling to publish the most pertinent information about vital matters
concerning the American people, such as the search for the truth about what really
happened on 9-11. This makes
the New York Times irrelevant. The
Times is in the same boat as the controlled press of the former Soviet
Union and many of the leading newspapers of the United
States. The controlled
press is a boat that is sinking and that deserves to
sink.

Christopher
Bollyn

Worse than
silence

Christopher Bollyn’s open letter
to CNN and Time Warner.

An Open Letter to CNN and Time Warner
from
Christopher Bollyn
April 28, 2009

Why is CNN & Time Warner
Avoiding the Evidence of Super-Thermite in the Dust of the World Trade
Center?
…
Dear Sirs:

As one of the largest news
networks in the United States, Time Warner's
CNN is a source of information for millions of people. As a news
network serving the public, CNN is
expected to report honestly about the news and relevant developments
connected to the important matters facing the nation.
As the worst terror attack in U.S. history and the seminal event
leading to the extremely costly "War on Terror," 9-11 remains a subject of
great interest and importance to the American people – and the
world.

CNN, however, has never shown any real interest in discussing the
physical evidence of 9-11. When, for example, a CNN team
came to Schaumburg, Illinois, in January 2007, to interview me as an
independent journalist writing about 9-11, they showed absolutely no
interest in discussing the evidence of explosives and steel-melting
thermite in the destruction of the World Trade Center, although this was
the key element of the research I had been writing about for the previous
year or more. Rather than discuss the evidence of demolition, CNN seemed
determined to frame me as an anti-Semite. I was repeatedly asked, "So, who
did it?" To which I responded, "9-11 is an unsolved crime."

Failing
to get me to say anything that could even be remotely construed as
anti-Semitic, CNN relied on a video-editing trick in an obvious attempt to
smear me. After I told CNN very clearly that I was not an
anti-Semite, the video editors spliced in a clip of a woman from the
Anti-Defamation League of the B'nai B'rith (a secret organization of
Jewish Freemasons) taken in another city at another time, that made it
appear that she was responding to my comments. Fortunately, we had recorded the entire interview with CNN and
were able to show how CNN was not at all interested in the evidence
from 9-11 but wanted only to smear me as an anti-Semite.
Why would CNN even have such an agenda to attack a truth seeker of
9-11?

Now, two years later, we have a scientific peer-reviewed paper that
presents physical evidence of super-thermite (i.e.
nano-thermite) found in the dust from
the destroyed and pulverized World Trade Center. This is a
crucial discovery because this is evidence of the extremely sophisticated
and powerful explosive that pulverized the twin towers on 9-11.
CNN, however, has yet to even report on
this key discovery, which was published in a peer-reviewed
scientific journal in March 2009. Why
is CNN avoiding discussion of such crucial evidence of the explosives
found in the dust of the destroyed twin towers? Is the
scientific evidence explaining how the towers were destroyed of no
importance to CNN?

How can CNN
ignore the scientific evidence of large amounts of nano-thermite, or
super-thermite, found in the pulverized rubble of the World Trade
Center? A recent study written by 9 scientists,
including Dr. Steven E. Jones of Provo, Utah, has proven the existence of
a highly-explosive thermitic material, "characterized as nano-thermite or
super-thermite," in five different samples of dust from the collapsed
towers of the World Trade Center. This paper,
published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal, is an historic breakthrough in the scientific
investigation of the explosive collapses of the twin towers,
yet CNN has not even mentioned
it.
…
This is the first time we have
solid evidence of the unusual explosives involved in the demolition of the
three collapsed towers. One would think
that CNN would find such a development to be newsworthy.
CNN's refusal to discuss the crucial evidence of explosives in the World
Trade Center reveals that CNN is both
controlled and opposed to discussing the evidence of what
really happened on 9-11.

Signed,

Christopher
Bollyn

Evidence that
mainstream media is dead

Click on this link for the peer reviewed paper
titled “Active
Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center
Catastrophe”.

Now click on this link for a
Google News search of the word “Thermite”. Notice the complete lack of
coverage.

If the US mainstream media was alive and functioning,
allegations this creditable about an issue this important would be
addressed! The lack of meaningful media coverage on this
issue alone is enough to declare the US media dead.

This reader’s letter to The Star
expresses ridiculousness
of the problem.

I, like millions of
others, am still waiting for a mainstream paper to fully attend to the
details of what these men are saying. Lay out the evidence, please.

It does no good to offer comments from
detractors that “they are imposters, liars and con-men.” Are they?
Show us why this is
so. We no longer react
to serious questions based on emotion.

These men are arguing based on the
evidence collected. Any
detractor must counter the evidence, not simply smear their character. Of
particular seriousness is the collapse of WTC 7 and the evidence of
explosive thermitic material found in four separate dust samples collected
from ground zero.

This peer-reviewed evidence has been available for
one year already, and
has been completely ignored by
such “prestigious” and “reputable papers” as the Star, and refuted
by no one.
Why?

Conclusion:
There may be a perfectly legitimate explanation to WT7. However,
because the mainstream media has failed to address and investigate the
issue, we are currently left with convincing evidence of thermite induced
controlled demolition and an “official” explanation that defies the laws
of physics. America's media is broken.

Finally, if the media is capable of ignoring something
like this, then accepting the lack coverage about other issues of vital
importance fraud in gold markets, the imminent 2010 food crisis, etc
becomes easy.

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dashxdr said...

While we're on the subject of 9-11, there are comprehensive
documentaries showing eye witnesses that no plane actually hit the
pentagon, that was staged as
well.

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/nsa.html

May 20, 2010 6:30
PM

Robert said...

I'm afraid it's much worse than that. No planes hit any buildings at
all - the news media faked it all.

Hardly anyone in the so-called
'truth movement' seems able to address this simple fact. The buildings
were all blown up and the pictures of planes were just on TV.

May 20, 2010 7:49
PM

RJ said...

Robert, you're either an idiot or a paid disinfo troll. The waters
have been muddied by a-holes like you for too long. You are a traitor to
the United States.

May 20, 2010 7:57
PM

Robert said...

That's pretty much what always happens when someone points it
out.

May 20, 2010 8:05
PM

Greg Hindbo said...

Eric,
You've been doing some awesome work here, so I'm a little
mystified how you can be so easily gulled by these specious arguments.

"The man scarce lives who is not more credulous than he ought to
be.... The
natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired
wisdom and experience
only that teach incredulity, and they very
seldom teach it enough."
- Adam
Smith
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/7_World_Trade_Center
http://gryphonsquill.wordpress.com/

May 20, 2010 8:42
PM

kean said...

anyone who doesn't believe 9/11 was in inside job is a sheeple and
deserves the horrible future waiting for them. long live
Caesar!

May 20, 2010 8:54
PM

Trader said...

I'm pretty sure there weren't any big crimes that weren't related to
those assholic bankers.

May 21, 2010
12:11 AM

Fauvi said...

And Eric, where exactly was the gold from Germany? Wasn't it there in
the neighbourhood? Bye bye German gold! Stolen by the thieves in White
House!

May 21, 2010 1:35
AM

Sebastian said...

It's not just America's media that's broken. It's the same all over
the western world, at least when it comes to 9/11 and the war on terror.
I recommend www.whatreallyhappened.com for alternative news sources. It
was there I found Market Skeptics.

May 21, 2010 4:49
AM

LateSleeper said...

Eric -

Unusual entry for your blog, but you are right on. Stay
the course. There is no objective alternative explanation for WTC7 - the
mental gymnastics required to subjectively accept every other reason to
explain what you can clearly observe on video is simply a form of denial
and participation in doublethink. The same holds true for our
economy.
There are three types of people - those who are living in
conscious denial or deception, those who are in the process of waking-up
and those who are already awake. You are seeing the bigger picture -
continue doing what you do, it's important. Peace.

May 21, 2010 7:06
AM

Ultrasonicchills said...

I am one of the Engineers that has signed the AE911Truth petition. I
am fully convinced by physical evidence that the official 9/11 story is
a lie. I am seeking for the truth, and would like to encourage others to
be open minded enough to consider different views. Anyone that is not
willing to consider the evidence has their head in the sand and will
eventually die of suffocation. I invite all to take your heads out of
the sand, look around, and take a breath of fresh air, because the truth
will set you free.

May 21, 2010
11:23 AM

juste en passant said...

I recommend reading
:

http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=287

Eric , you have my
profound esteem .

May 21, 2010
12:24 PM

Robert said...

Eric:

Dear oh dear, my oh my.

In just one short article
- you've just blown your hard-won credibility.

We've relied on
you to uncover the truth from issues ranging from gold market
manipulation to the dangers of deficit spending and
hyperinflation.

All with sound-minded clarity.

Until now.

Now we find you are actually a believer in conspiracy theory -
even when it makes no sense.

In Washington - where every
politician is scared shit-less about pissing off the voters that got him
there, doing the most expedient and gutless things just to coddle those
same voters - and now we are to believe that these same spineless
blow-hards have suddenly discovered the guts to actually hatch plots to
target, maim and murder their own prized constituents that voted them
into office in the first place?

And if found out, go to jail or
the electric chair for mass murder?

All pretty courageous for a
bunch of spineless politicians - don't you think?

I'm sorry
Eric.

I must now re-consider all the previous research you've
done, from gold market manipulation to all the other seemingly
insightful theories you've proposed over the last few years - with an
eye toward considering that you're a actually a nut-case who's been
successfully masquerading as an astute observer of human, institutional
and market behavior.

What was that great line by Alec Guiness -
who fast-talked his way past the sentries in Star Wars...

"The
Force has a strong influence over the weak minded".

Eric - don't
go over to the Dark Side just when we need you most.

Where's
your commentary on the upcoming banking legislation or any of a million
other pressing issues?

RobW.

May 21, 2010
12:48 PM

mr pinnion said...

There is a very good utube vid debunking the 9-11 conspiracy
theories.Watch it and learn.

Afraid i agree with Robert on this
one.All the planes hit what the media said they hit.
Now, wether the
powers that be knew of the plot and let it happen, is another question.I
think they probably did, but who knows.

More to the point. I
think Eric is starting to panic about the serious LACK OF FOOD CRISIS at
the moment.Not a sniff of it.Not in developed countries
anyway.

He s basically trying to change the subject in the hope
we ll all forget his past hopeless predictions.
It s not going to
happen Eric.
Hows your soybean graph looking now?
I recon Erics
either a genious or a madman, and with every day that goes by without
hyper inflation or a food crisis, he sounds more and
more like a mad
man.

Regards
Ozzimandis

May 21, 2010 1:25
PM

LateSleeper said...

Conspiracy defined:

- a secret agreement between two or more
people to perform an unlawful act
- a plot to carry out some harmful
or illegal act (especially a political plot)
- a group of
conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal
purpose

Name one area in politics / economics / military where
this definition does NOT apply.

May 21, 2010 1:45
PM

kean said...

There will be a civil war in this country. Two sides. One--truthers.
The other--sheeple and the federal fascist regime. We can already see
the line in the sand. Which side will you choose? This is going to be
fun.

As a matter of fact, anyone who doesn't believe in
conspiracy theories, I tune off immediately because I know they don't
have the foresight to see what's right in front of them.

May 21, 2010 3:19
PM

Natasa said...

come on Mr. pinion,
I always thought that you are smarter than
this.
This article is just a picture of US mainstream media and it is
definitely not against previous researches Eric made.
Until now he
predicted quite well almost everything.
But, I understand you
too.
Perhaps you expected from Eric some kind of Nosterdamus
"vision", and now you are "disappointed".

Unfortunately for you,
all those prediction Eric made based "only" on his research
data.

May 21, 2010 3:42
PM

Phil said...

There was a Benford's Law analysis done on 9/11.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usab5303.pdf

This
study speaks to terrorists lack of trial, and need of further WTC
investigation.

A Benford's Law analysis of the Gulf oil spill is
also indicated.

May 21, 2010 6:13
PM

Mark said...

Yeah. 1000 architects. And they are all idiots.

How do I
know?

Remember the GFC? 15.000 economists didn't see it
coming.

So how could 1000 architects don't understand that a
building can NEVER resist the pressure of the upper half *FALLING* on
it? The implosion was DYNAMIC! Architects DON'T DO DYNAMICS!!!

IS
IT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN THE UPPER HALF OF A BUILDING COMES CRUSHING
DOWN INSTEAD OF JUST STATICALLY SITTING ON TOP....

I don't really
know why I care writing that. Imbeciles will last forever. The best way
is to invest against them and to profit from them.

Have a nice
day.

:-)))

May 22, 2010 6:45
AM

RichardC said...

Please read David Ray Griffin's book on WTC7; it is excellent and
exhaustive. Pay special attention to, and google, Prof. Jonathan
Barnett's work in the document known as FEMA Appendix C. Barnett found
that very hot sulfur burned holes in a piece of steel from WTC7. Barnett
professes not to know where the sulfur could have come from. It did NOT
come from drywall, calcium sulfate; that is a chemical impossibility in
a fuel or office fire. At the very least, arson was committed in WTC7 by
someone with access to the building who knew 911 was coming. At worst,
WTC7 was demolished using thermate (and perhaps other) devices.

-Richard

May 22, 2010 7:19
AM

dashxdr said...

@mr pinnion

Speaking of failed predictions of food
crises...

I seem to remember Eric was calling for an explosion of
sugar prices.

What's
this:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/2010/May/sugar-21-1.gif

From
a peak around 30, sugar's down around 14.

Can you say Pump And
Dump?

What _is_ your angle, Eric?

May 22, 2010
11:26 AM

Gail said...

I don't like being a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. But that was
SO convenient. Heinous crimes have been committed for much less profit
than has resulted to Halliburton et al from this gigantic excuse to
invade Iraq (anyone remember Friedman's famous statement, SUCK ON
THIS?)

Aside from that, like many predications - Rachel Carson's
Silent Spring for example - may be decades off the mark, but that is
nanoseconds in the paleoclimatic timescale.

We ARE, already,
experiencing mass extinctions, and there already IS famine in many parts
of the world. Go ahead and ignore it, if you live in a place where it
hasn't yet started. But it's coming soon, to a theatre near you. The
best we can do is acknowledge the carnage that is already in the
pipeline, and come together as a species to mitigate the
devastation.

www.witsendnj.blogspot.com

May 22, 2010 4:26
PM

Doctor Of Ghetto said...

In addition to WTC7 guys, ever wonder why the buildings fell on that
specific day, September 11th, 2001? Would you believe it has something
to do with the national debt being at $6+Trillion? Listen in on this
video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAW7h1ZtDGY

May 22, 2010 7:41
PM

acuity said...

to Robert: Oooh, in one article Eric questions the media's coverage
on this topic and you suggest that Eric
1) has lost all
credibility
2) is going over to the "Dark side"
3) is saying that
a bunch of spineless politicians "did it" (which he in no way
suggested)

HAHA. You are a big joke RobW. Two possibilities your
are emotionally unstable, or you are a CIA shill. Either way it is your
intellectual credibilty which is now shot.

May 23, 2010
10:33 AM

acuity said...

Noam Chomsky outlined the media's role in propaganda a long time ago.
The ideas are fundamentally true, there is no doubt that the media is
not "a free press" (literally and figuratively; someone is paying) nor
is it functioning as the 4th estate.

Here are some of the
intellectual underpinnings of Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky (you
can watch the movie on Google video). For people who don't like theory,
he has a litany of facts and dates and times and examples of things like
"the Operative Soundbite". However just head over to the NY Times site
and look at what their headlines are ...at this moment "Financial Reform
Bill Poses Big Test for Lobbyists" - what a puff story, not a discussion
about whether the FUNDAMENTAL problems of the system and OUTRAGE/DEBATE
over whether the bill rights those problems, nope, the debate is framed
in ridiculous terms - even offering up the obvious fact lobbyists are
filling politicians campaign buckets - so let's all talk about that at
the dinner table HAHA. Manufacturing consent, if you don't know it, read
it, wake up people.

Some snippets from the video (with time
index)

400 Manufacturing consent what is that meant to describe?
Lipman. He said that manufacture of consent is a revolution in the
practice of democracy....The common interests ellude the public, they
have to be the domain of a specialized class. Notice this is an opposite
view of democracy.

500 Rationality belongs to the cool observer,
but because of the stupidity of the naive man he follows not reason but
faith. This naive faith requires necessary illusion and emotionally
potent oversimplifications provided by the myth maker to keep the
necessary person on course.

540 The point in a feudal state it
doesnt much matter what the public think because you can control them
with a bludgeon. When you cant control people by force, ...you have
to control what people think. The standard way to do this is
propoganda....

500 20% of population relatively eduacated makes
role in decision making. Participate in social life, such as those who
write, teach and they vote. Their consent is crucial. That 20% need
to be deeply indoctrinated. 80% of population is to follow orders
and the mythmaker.

605 Primarily about the national media. The
elite media are the agenda setting NYTimes, WashingtonPost, they set the
general framework. "Operative sound bite" , "Selection of topics",
"Distribution of Concerns", "Framing of issues", "Filtering of
Information", "Bounding of debate"

715 Determine, Select,
Shape, Control, Restrict , Serve the interests of the elite groups
of society.

4012 To eliminate confusion all of this has
nothing to do with liberal or conservative bias. Both liberal and
conservative wings of the media....falls within the same framework of
assumptions. If the system functions well it ought to have a liberal
bias...ie. if indeed press is adversarial and liberal and extreme how
can I go beyond it?

4130 Who owns them? The major agenda setting
media. They are large corporations owned by even larger
coporations/conglomorates. GE etc.

4215 How specifically control
the media? The elite don't control they own it.

4245 If
you get the to the point where they dont pay attention to you, it
is because there are people with power, people who own the countryr and
they are not going to let the country get out of control.

May 23, 2010
11:02 AM

mr pinnion said...

Natasa said..

Perhaps you expected from Eric some kind of
Nosterdamus "vision", and now you are "disappointed"

No.I m
not dissapointed that people arnt starving to death.
I am slightly
dissapointed that i got taken in by what looks like a lot of well argued
bulls--t.

Lets face it, Eric has predicted pretty much the end of
the western world financial system, total collapse of normal life.We are
getting to the limit of the prediction.Just over one month ,i
think.
And nothing is happening on anywhere near the scale he said it
would.

Now i think he should explain why nothing is happening
instead of going of on tangents.
9-11? Its all been said.Nothing new
there.It s history.We want to know the likely future.
You would think
Eric would apply his planet sized brain to the most relevant and
pressing issues,which is the starving people thing and the
hyperinflation thing.
Especialy as these two subjects are supposed
(according to eric) to be comming to a head round about
now.

I disagree with Dashxdr on the pump and dump comment, as
this implies erics comments affect the market price of food in some
way.
I realy dont think his comments are market moveing
events.

Regards
Ozzimandis

May 23, 2010 1:38
PM

Phil said...

Cover-up in the lab.

http://www.puppetgov.com/2010/05/21/video-how-mercury-kills-the-brain-vaccines-autism/

May 23, 2010 4:46
PM

A said...

WOW market skeptic apply some skepticism.

9/11 was a gift to
the neocons, maybe they left the way clear for it to happen.

but
evidently, you think that:

the exact nature and time of the
attacks were known, and the buildings were able to be rigged to collapse
under the cover of the attack - but for what purpose? It's not enough to
have planes hit the buildings, they have to fall down too?

Why?
why chance the discovery of the conspiracy? All the things that could go
wrong, or be discovered at a later time . . (e.g. there would STILL be
thermite residue at ground zero ) . the neocon agenda would be
completely gutted.

and as for thermite used in building 7 - How
could it be known ahead of time that building 7 would be so badly
damaged/set on fire by debris? In other words, how could the conspiracy
know there'd be cover for the thermite demolition? nearby buildings - I
think one or two that were closer to the north tower than 7 - were not
so badly damaged.

so this all presumes this great need to have
the buildings collapse, for what? To enhance the psychological effect of
the attack?

what an absolutely dumb idea.

You'd have to
be dumb to do it, and then also smart enough/organized enough to keep
investigators and media from talking about it.

your main point is
'the media wont address the controlled demolition theory' - the reason
is that it's abhorrent to many people, it's offensive, it's not
politically correct . . it's not possible to have a dialogue about this
in the mainstream media.

other institutions - like universities
and foreign governments - also gagged individuals who tried to talk
about controlled demolition. Not just media.

May 23, 2010
10:41 PM

Natasa said...

It is really unbelievable for one non-American to see reaction of
some Americans when it comes to talk about "911" (I mean particularly on
"A" and some of the similar comments here).

It really looks that
for some "professional" Americans all LOGIC - died long time
ago...

I just wonder if those persons EVER ask them selves 2
(two) SIMPLE questions:
1. - How many airplanes crushed?---(A:
2)
2. - How many buildings collapsed?---(A: 3)

Next FACTS are
interesting too:
* The smallest (WTC7) one collapsed - even that NO
airplane crushed on it!
* The smallest one (WTC7) was "only" 70
floors "small" and collapsed in FREE FALL (less that 9 seconds!)
*
The smallest one (WTC7) - as it is possible to see even in Erics text -
was positioned FAR from 2 higher buildings targeted by planes, and it
was "DIVIDED" from "Twins" with OTHER buildings!

Just those
"small" facts - make enormous distrust - in "logic" and common sense of
persons like "A".

Unfortunately, it looks that American
brain-washing is still very strong.

May 24, 2010 3:03
AM

Phil said...

The few analogical and dialogical comments on offer here so far stand
out like stiff pricqs at a rape convention.

9/11 was a gang rape
by traitors.

And so was the oil spill IMHO. Only traitors run a
damaged, deep-water oil rig flat out for two months expecting
success.

May 24, 2010 1:50
PM

Startup said...

When Greenspan as operative of the Fed, and therefore connected to
the Fed and elites says"

“I am saddened that it is politically
inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely
about oil,” he says. link

And George Bush says

''We will
defeat the terrorists," Bush said. ''We will build a free Iraq that will
fight terrorists instead of giving them aid and sanctuary."

"...they would create a new training ground for future terrorist
attacks," Bush said. ''They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions.
They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over
the United States and our coalition." link

Obviously a child can put two and two
together that terrorist theme is being fed to the masses for
geopolitical war.

The biggest issue I get out of this thread is
that
- It is psychologically difficult to accept that the truth when
we're being inundated with lies on TV. The truth being that private
interests and elites rule the country (with no regard to the
Constitution). SO all bets are off on .
- It is easy to disrupt
rational discourse about a topic when stooge elements disrupt the flow
with outlandish statements.

May 24, 2010 2:36
PM

The Eternal Pessimist said...

Eric,

I guess "Popular Mechanics" is part of our broken
media. This post is a f-ing joke!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

May 25, 2010 1:57
PM

Phil said...

Seems the well could have been sealed in any 8 hour time frame since
the spill. Criminal negligence charges, or worse, are on the
table.

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3569%3Agulf-oil-spill-could-have-been-sealed-in-8-hours-anytime-&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en

May 25, 2010
11:46 PM

jungeonwarrior said...

Popular Mechanics IS PART of our DEAD media.

Architects,
Engineers, Firefighters and controlled demoltion experts
agree.

There were explosives in the buildings.

A peer
reviewed journal has detailed the exploisives found in the dust. It is
known as nano-thermite.

May 26, 2010
12:27 PM

A said...

could you please post a link, jungeon . .

May 26, 2010
10:08 PM

Cardin said...

It behooves those crying bullshit to actually research their jargon.

Instead of having your opinions fed to you by mainstream media, why
don't you listen to the eyewitness accounts from that day.

Sorry
folks. Sucking your thumb in denial wont change the ugly truth of that
day.

WAKE UP!

"the best predictor of the future is the
past. Those who deny the past and those that do not learn from the past
are condemned to repeat it and suffer the consequences"

June 1, 2010 7:57
AM

witsendnj said...

Ozzimandis, it's kind of like people saying Rachel Carson was an
hysteric.

Her predictions are coming true. Creatures from birds
to butterflies, frogs to bats, are dying at a rate that in hindsight
will be recognized as extinction.

Our atmosphere is so polluted
with toxic ozone from burning fuels that vegetation cannot
photosynthesize...and plants are the bottom of the terrestrial food
chain. There's less and less food for animals to eat.

Crops will
fail spectacularly this summer, and then there will be less and less for
people to eat.

June 2, 2010 9:26
AM

mr pinnion said...

Crops will fail spectacularly this summer, and then there will be
less and less for people to eat.....

What about
last summer and the summer before? All this shit was in the air then
too.

Animals are dying because theres too many people stripping
the world bare.

Maybe the powers that be agree with you and are
thinking it time for a cull?

Regards
Ozzymandis

June 3, 2010
10:29 AM

Gail said...

Ozzy, crops did fail last summer! It will just be more spectacular
this summer, because the background level of tropospheric ozone is
inexorably increasing.

However, I do think the gradual decline of
trees has suddenly taken a dive, since the summer of 2008 and frankly, I
am not sure why. I would very much like to know however, because then
there might be some possibility of arresting the impacts before they go
extinct.

Here are the possibilities I have considered: 1. just
have reached an intolerably high level of cumulative damage; 2. the
government-mandated addition of ethanol to gasoline (virtually no one is
testing the emissions of ethanol for acetaldehyde or peroxyacetyl
nitrate formation and what impact that might have on plants - I've been
told it's too expensive); 3. HFC levels have risen dramatically, so how
that affects the composition and impact of ozone is anyone's guess; 4.
there is some unknown synergy of chemistry going on with high levels of
nitrogen used for fertilizer in biofuel agriculture and/or increasing UV
radiation or even, cell phone radiation mixing with
pollutants.

One thing is certain - there are 70,000 industrial
chemicals in use today, and only 200 of them have been tested for their
affects on human health, let alone tree and plant and animal health. Not
to mention how they interact with each other.

Any ideas about
what might be killing trees are welcome!

June 5, 2010 8:36
AM

Phil said...

Mega tons of aluminum nanoparticles spread in chemtrails account for
most forest destruction ... raising soil pH and weakening Zeta Potential
in plant and animal matter.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7958-0-5-5--.html

June 5, 2010 6:12
PM

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